Giant Otter

Otter gang where

GIANT OTTER YES PLEASE!!!!! 

30 minutes ago, aR0y2810 said:

There are a few demerits to the suggestion, namely it seems just like any other amphibious (land & water) mount, closely competing with the Shadowmane and even outperforming it. What you can do perhaps is, remove the pack buff, make it a solo territorial creature, with a speciality against Crocs and biotoxin, angler gel etc. farming proficiency like @ashgcysaid. Also the drag & feed on the small otter sucks because of the hitbox, if it's done it needs to be done well, and with a creature of this size a simple tranq and tame wouldn't be too bad either 

I think the pack bonus would need to stay, as otters are highly social animals and it makes sense for them to be in a big group like that. Realistically if it was more of an aquatic megalosaurus, without the bleed ability, that would probably suit it more. There isn't really any great early game way to move smaller aquatic dinos, so the otter could be the stand in, until you'd get the tuso of course.

I believe NeoVanilluxe wanted the drag corpse taming to work like the "building trust to ride" part of Carchar's taming method, you'd just drop the corpse on the ground near the Giant Bear Otter and it'd walk over and eat it

Since otters are known for being so intelligent, maybe giving it harvesting levels like the Moschops or Therizinosaurus?

Lore wise, this could be training the otter to better recognise key resources, and would translate to it gathering more things from said sources. Resources could include prime fish, bio toxin, pearls, angler gel, ammonite bile, leech blood and maybe even oil (from things like basilos, trilobites etc etc). When it comes to prime fish and pearls in particular, the black pearl gathering could come into play where there's a chance that the otter gathers black pearls/prime fish rather than silica/raw fish as the harvest level increases.

It might be better to have the gathering be done in this way rather than autonomously producing silica and black pearls, which would be quite powerful, probably a bit too OP.
 

Giant otters yes please 

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12 minutes ago, ashgcy said:

Since otters are known for being so intelligent, maybe giving it harvesting levels like the Moschops or Therizinosaurus?

Lore wise, this could be training the otter to better recognise key resources, and would translate to it gathering more things from said sources. Resources could include prime fish, bio toxin, pearls, angler gel, ammonite bile, leech blood and maybe even oil (from things like basilos, trilobites etc etc). When it comes to prime fish and pearls in particular, the black pearl gathering could come into play where there's a chance that the otter gathers black pearls/prime fish rather than silica/raw fish as the harvest level increases.

It might be better to have the gathering be done in this way rather than autonomously producing silica and black pearls, which would be quite powerful, probably a bit too OP.
 

oh this is such a good idea, youre so right

Otters in ark are useful and cute little shoulder pets adored by many players, so why not make em bigger rideable and overall better?

harvesting:

*able to pick silica pearls off the ocean floor much like an angler 

*able to hit resource nodes with a rock much like how real Otters use rocks too break hard shells of sea life 

Combat:

*basic bite 

No description needed

*rock smash

Hit enemy with rock doing decent damage and apply a concuss debuff to smaller enemies(anything with a lower drag weight than a theri) which would either:

A. Reduce stam and speed of a player making it harder to escape for q short period of time 

B. Do torpor

C. Reduce armour value of player/tames armour for a short period 

D. No concuss debuff but make it ignore armour or have high armour penatration 

Rock attack also cannot be used  while submerged in water or moving kinda like the ferox slam 

*a ranged ability like ferox rock would be cool where the otter lobs a rock but that would probably be a bit too goofy 

mobility:

Otter should have a land speed close to that of a theri but in water have speed similarly to a shadowmane also should have a decent turn radius 

Weakness:

The biggest weakness would be getting netted, flashed or picked by wyverns, crabs, quetzal

Not much vertical mobility either 

With all that in mind who doesn't wanna bash a beach bobs skull in with a rock while riding a giant otter also otters are cute asf so no matter what the pve players will be happy lol

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GIANT OTTER!!!!! take back what was robbed from us!!!

This NEEDs to win, so useful and gorgeous too!

Love this submission SO much.

Love it, love otters, love this. Would be great if it could jump and climb on things to make it agile in and out of the water 

Love this idea.

Gib giant otter pls 

On 1/15/2023 at 12:43 AM, NeoVanilluxe said:

Enhydriodon dikikae, the specific species I chose, lived in modern-day Ethiopia ~3-5MYA, in the Pliocene. It is an extremely large otter, estimated to be around the size of a lion or bear. 

Common Name: GIANT BEAR-OTTER

Species: Enhydriodon morsus

Time: Pliocene

Diet: Carnivore

Temperament: Aggressive

Wild
Enhydriodon look extremely similar to  the common river otter, but with one major difference- they're huge! Their large, interlocking front teeth aren't only ideal for dealing a killing blow, but dragging corpses to their feeding grounds, along with stealing small creatures from the surface and drowning them.

I've often seen Enhydriodon that live in the swamp actively seek out Sarcosuchus as well as Kaprosuchus just to fight them. They stalk them for hours on end and seem so much angrier when fighting a croc compared to anything else threatening its territory and dinner.

Ichthyornis and Megapiranha seem to be terrified of Enhydriodon. Maybe this could prove useful at times.

Domesticated
Enhydriodon make excellent travel mounts. Their webbed hands barely impede its ability to walk on solid ground. Its whiskers allow it to detect predators- and prey in even the darkest depths of the ocean. With the right materials, some survivors have managed to turn this beast into a hulking submarine! Their saddles have a built-in shield to protect the rider. Now i can get up close and personal with those nasty Cnidaria.

Abilities

Enhydriodon would obviously have a simple primary bite/swipe and possibly a secondary tail slap. It would have a number of abilities, including a gnash similar to Allosaurus. It would keep the insulation buff that the regular otter provides. While within a certain range of a Sarcosuchus or Kaprosuchus, Enhydriodon will gain a "rage" buff, either similar to Megatherium's, or Carcharodontosaurus' bloodrage where their attack and defense are boosted. This applies to both wild and tamed Enhydriodon, as well as wild and tamed Kapro/Sarco. Their saddle is similar to the Roll Rat saddle, where the dome-shield is furled up until the player mounts Enhydriodon. Then, it unfolds and completely encases the player, protecting it from firearms, creatures that dismount the player (Cnidaria, Microraptor, Kaprosuchus, etc.) Underwater, the dome makes it so that the player will not lose oxygen while mounted, but will not replenish oxygen should the player dismount underwater, similar to the Andrewsarchus minigun saddle. While mounted on Enhydriodon, it has a toggle-able ability that outlines wild and tamed creatures, similar to the Bloodstalker. While active, the Otter's whiskers will have an ocassional twitching animation. At all times, Piranha and Ichthyornis (or potentially, also Cnidaria) are scared of Enhydriodon, as if they have the Yutyrannus fear debuff applied while it's nearby. Enhydriodon would have a pack bonus, that caps at +4. Leaving Enhydriodon on wander in the water would allow it to passively farm silica and black pearls at a high rate. Alternatively, it could have harvesting levels, including bio toxin (because of the dismount immunity), ammonite bile, oil, and pearls. If you two or more Enhydriodon near each other in the water, they should have a radial menu option that allows them to hold hands, a behavior found in otters today! Lastly, Enhydriodon will be able to drag corpses, and small living creatures around in its mouth. 

Taming

Enhydriodon's taming method would be a mix of Carcharodontosaurus and the regular Otter. You would need to drag corpses of either Megalodon, Salmon, Kaprosuchus, or Sarcosuchus towards it and the otter will start eating it. This would only increase the taming % and there would be no period to ride Enhydriodon, UNLIKE Carcharodontosaurus. Sarcosuchus and Kaprosuchus are better to tame it with. Sarcosuchus is equivalent to the Otter's "Kibble."

Artwork, Dossier

This dossier was created by me, with help of the FTU template. Otters would have 6 Regions. 1: Main body, 2: Underbelly, 3: Top pattern, 4: Bottom pattern, 5: Hands, 6: Claws.

If i see any other suggestions i like ill be sure to add them ❤️ 

Nice

Absolutely love this idea !! I had little idea that I think would be awesome have them share all spawns of small otters for one alongside authors suggested spawns areas.

my idea is to guardian ability for normal otters so your Bear Otter presence makes smaller shoulder mount otters feel safer & would follow bear otter in hopes of food kind of like how fjord hawks do making there taming process easier 

With food items suggested expanding it to include mantas , Karkinos & Ichthyosauris as possible taming bear otter 

Giant Otter all the way!!! This cuddle beast screams mobile bed saddle kind of like the stryder🥰😴

This is needed in the ark

ok

Es insano

Sii nutria 

this giant otter is literally such a good idea!! i love the abilities, i love the appearance! all around, it's such a good idea in my opinion!! great job!! 

Desde las votaciones pasadas tenía una idea de una Nutria Gigante. Me encantó tu propuesta  y diseño tal vez mejorsria un poco la redacción resaltando los puntos claves para que la gente lo visualice mas fácil. Igual agregaría puntos de spam y un poco descripción extra. Si ocupas algo de ayuda en la edición avisame y con gusto te hecho una mano.

There are a few demerits to the suggestion, namely it seems just like any other amphibious (land & water) mount, closely competing with the Shadowmane and even outperforming it. What you can do perhaps is, remove the pack buff, make it a solo territorial creature, with a speciality against Crocs and biotoxin, angler gel etc. farming proficiency like @ashgcysaid. Also the drag & feed on the small otter sucks because of the hitbox, if it's done it needs to be done well, and with a creature of this size a simple tranq and tame wouldn't be too bad either 

Another idea could be based on the scent glands of mustelids being potent and potentially usable as an alternative to stealth. More of nobody wants to touch the giant death machine that smells bad unless it attacks them.

This is hilarious, and I'm all for it.